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I think most fans think of these things from a management perspective, as that's how fans have largely been taught to understand sports in the wake of fantasy games. I think the front office has pretty clearly failed Joker and owes him a duty to surround him with capable team. This is a disgusting attempt from Stan and Josh Kroenke, Calvin Booth, and everyone behind the scenes in the Nuggets organization. Michael Malone is the only guy there that appears to feel like he has some sort of duty and an understanding of what Jokic has done for him.

I'm aware that you often times get angry at the fanbase for crediting only Joker and no one besides him. I think it's fair, they've had other good players and other guys that helped. However, at a certain point you just gotta cut the shit and ask yourself where is this organization without Joker? They're nearing an 80 game home sellout streak, season tickets are sold out in full, half and quarter seasons. Without Jokic they're doing five dollar game nights and loading up tickets with free meals and drinks. The Nuggets would be beyond irrelevant not only in the league, but in their own market, if Jokic were to leave. I'm not trying to badmouth my favorite team; I'm just telling you what, deep down, you already know. You've been in the building on the witness protection nights, and I've been there on nights where I had a whole row to myself.

The Nuggets were the second to the last team in the league to get a G League team, they're the only team in the league without a dedicated practice facility. The courts at 24 Hour Fitness on Parker and Arapahoe have more space than the Nuggets practice facility. KSE, as a whole, has had countless injury issues in Denver. Would a dedicated practice, training, and rehab facility fix these injuries? Maybe, maybe not...there's only one way to find out! Whatever the result, it certainly wouldn't hurt. You have lamented the Nuggets core injuries that seemingly no other team has, there are failings on Nuggets ownership and Calvin Booth that must be discussed. This is just not a major league commitment to winning.

The Nuggets ducked the second apron this year so they could send three second round picks to get off Reggie Jackson and sign Dario Saric, who cannot play, to the tax payer midlevel exception. Oh by the way, he's on the books next season. In ducking the second apron they let the best permitter defender they've had in the Jokic era walk. The one bugaboo that's haunted the Nuggets throughout the Jokic era was fixed for two glorious years when they had KCP, they let him walk and didn't replace him. While I will concede that in year two or three of that deal you'll be wanting off of it, but there isn't an understanding that the Nuggets were trying to win a finals *this* year. The front office fell for the NBA Twitter trap of flexibility, only to assemble the least flexible roster in the league.

I am a Nuggets full season ticket holder. My tickets have more than doubled since the pre pandemic days, the benefits that come with being a season ticket holder have all but disappeared. No comp games, no meet the team party, no redemption games...nothing. I still pay, I don't know how much longer I'll get to watch Jokic so I want to treasure what I have left. Shouldn't I have some expectations of the on court product for this team? You've doubled my tickets and you're worried about the second apron? Shouldn't I ask for an NBA caliber product for paying an NBA caliber price? Shouldn't I be repulsed I have to watch "Jalen Pickett" or "Hunter Tyson" play with the best player my market will ever see?

To me, this is what I mean when I say the Nuggets have failed Jokic. Where's Calvin Booth without Jokic? Where's the Nuggets organization without Jokic? Tim Connelly joked that he had a wing of his house named after Jokic. Michael Malone understands he's where he is because of Jokic. Does everyone else? Without Jokic the building is half fill with the other team's fans every night. Jamal Murray, Aaron Gordon, and Michael Porter Junior are ALL NBA players without Jokic (not the award, just that all of them are NBA players) they're all on good eight figure contracts headed toward nine figure career earnings. Jokic has certainly helped them as they have helped him, sacrificed for him. Michael Porter Junior completely changed his game to fit next to Jokic. Jamal Murray has played hurt countless times for Jokic as has Aaron Gordon.

Jokic has elevated no one more than Nuggets management. They are failing him as they have failed the fans. Let's ignore the facilities and the crappy fan treatment, the Kroenkes have allowed a Stanley Cup run, a Finals run, a Norris season, a Hart season and three MVP seasons be blacked out for fans. Apparently no one suffered from that more than Josh Kroenke, so we can just chalk that up to shit happens right? Are we surprised that this group of absentee landlords is also fumbling a top ten player of all time? This is who needs to do it for Joker.

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I don’t know what it's like to be Jamal Murray, Aaron Gordon, Julian Strawther, Peyton Watson, Michael Porter, or Christian Braun. I think there's a few things here and there they can do to be better, but their failures are not on par with an organization that handed an all time great player a roster with seven playable players that also can't shoot. I feel that there is a baseline of professionalism that is missing from several of the players on the roster, but that isn't a "do it for Joker" thing that's a "do it for yourself if anyone else" thing. If you got a roster with seven playable NBA guys and you don't see an opportunity to seize that's on you, nothing Jokic, Malone, Stan, Josh, or Booth can do.

Assembling a team full of bums like that? Well there's something management can do about that.

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